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Issue Data
Status: Closed
Issue Type: Bug Report
Project: Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
Component: Skyrim LE: Vanilla
Category: Placed References
Assigned To: Nobody
Platform: PC
Severity: Low
Votes: 0
Watching: N/A
Opened By alt3rn1ty on Jan 22, 2015 11:49 am
Closed By Arthmoor on Feb 19, 2015 5:56 am
Resolution: Fixed

Issue #18656: Karthspire vanishing rock - RefID 3571e

 
<div>Karthspire, the rock which vanishes depending on what angle you look at it :
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<div>Its just after you have gone through the cave, got rid of the foresworn in there, then you enter an opening where you can see the sky, right there before you start going up the stairs and solving a few puzzles to drop bridges, turn to the left and as you turn you will see a rock vanish, turn back to the right and it reappears.
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<div>RefID 3571e

Comments

6 comment(s) [Closed]
Nico coiN said:
 
Eh, I didn't think that the roombounds/portals were supposed to work in worldspaces. I thought it was an interior only feature. I mistook... Anyway, it's a very complex area with a very advanced roombounds system. Playing with it would probably solve the issue for this specific static (although it wouldn't be simple : I spent more than 1 hour trying to fix it and it's still a failure), but would for sure bring a total mess with other statics. :( Fortunately, only a very tiny part of this huge static is visible ingame (in fact, only the appearing/disappearing part you mentioned), no matter the room in which you are. The best solution is to replace it with a smaller rock/piece of wall to cover the gap this static was intended for, making sure its center 'lies' in the proper roombound.

Arthmoor said:
 
Is is possible to combine two room bound boxes into one? Look at this:

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The two boxes I put red rectangles on look like they could be merged into a single box assuming that's possible. That should cover the piece in question which you can see selected beneath everything. The origin point would be within the combined box then.

Nico coiN said:
 
Technically : yes. But IMO this won't fix the issue. I elaborate :

Technically yes, of course. But I saw at least 1 portal between these 2 roombounds, and this one would need to be disabled. Keep in mind that merging 2 roombounds may have an impact on performance (and make more visible the max number of light sources, for example). However, it might be worth a try.

But from what I understood when looking closely at this area, the issue comes from the smaller roombound you point out on your screenshot and the one that's just over (the open space from where you can see the sky)...

I'll check and report.

Edit 1 : Arthmoor, I tested your solution <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://host.conseiljedi.com/~nico/Skyrim/Fixs%20persos%20pour%20USKP/Fix%20Issue%2018656%20-%20Arthmoor%20Solution%20TRIAL.esp'>here</a>. Doesn't work. Still investigating.

Edit 2 : Tested merging the 2 roombounds I mentioned and it's even worse. More parts are unrendered. So, I'll stand on what I said : It's much easier and safer to swap the base ID to something much smaller, and cover the small gap it was intended for.

Nico coiN said:
 
Fix <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://host.conseiljedi.com/~nico/Skyrim/Fixs%20persos%20pour%20USKP/Fix%20Issue%2018656.7z'>here</a>, checked ingame. Also fixed some other placement errors.
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0003571e : MineCliffs02 base object changed to MineCBoulderL04, then moved to close a seam, in order to fix a vanishing rock due to incompatibility between the existing roombounds and the large scale of the original mesh.
<div>0003571f, 00035726, 0003578e, 000357a0, 000357a3, 00050578, 0010cab1 : mine boulders moved to close seams.
<div>00035726 : mine balcony moved to close a seam.
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alt3rn1ty said:
 
Wow, this was more complicated and fiddly than I imagined, I didnt realise so much occlusion culling was going on in there.

Nico's fix looks like a good fix in my game, I have examined it from all angles ..

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<img src="http://i.imgur.com/U3ordsg.jpg" alt="U3ordsg.jpg">


<img src="http://i.imgur.com/Vts75g9.jpg" alt="Vts75g9.jpg">

Arthmoor said:
 
Fixed for USKP 2.1.0.

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