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Issue Data
Status: New
Issue Type: Bug Report
Project: Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
Component: Skyrim SE: Vanilla
Category: Quests & Dialogue
Assigned To: Nobody
Platform: All
Severity: Very Low
Votes: 0
Watching: N/A
Opened By BlackPete on Sep 14, 2025 8:32 am

Issue #35851: CWPostWhiterunObj: Issues when returning to Balgruuf in CW03

 
If Jarl Balgruuf doesn't force greet the player when entering the war room in Dragonsreach (in CW03), the scene between him and Legate Cipius will continue on without completing the miscellaneous quest objective to "Return to the Jarl of Whiterun". He will just walk away after the conversation is over (and CW03BalgruufWarTopic skipped).

Other possible issues caused by this:

- Balgruuf's War Axe isn't removed from the player's inventory by the Jarl.

- Unsure if it's related or even a bug - but this dialogue will play after the battle even if you already own Breezehome: "Thank you for your role in all of this. It'd be my honor should you decide to make Whiterun your home. Speak with Proventus. He'll make the necessary arrangements."


Note: The miscellaneous quest objective actually can be completed after the battle is over by talking to the Jarl, but this is out of order because the triggering of CW03BalgruufWarTopic is supposed to complete it before the battle begins.

Comments

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BlackPete said:
 
I tried going back to a previous save and everything seemed to work out properly. Maybe you have to wait for the scene to play out to speak with Balgruuf. Either that, or the old dialogue engine bug is preventing him from force greeting you. It still seems that you can skip talking to the Jarl altogether before joining the Legionaries outside of the city, which will leave his axe in your inventory. And as far as the miscellaneous objective goes, it appeared after the battle completes and Balgruuf gives his victory speech this time.

I've always sided with the Stormcloaks so I don't know for sure how this all is intended to work. It could just be that it bugged out due to all the scripts running at the same time. As is usual with the civil war, there were a bunch of Papyrus errors (which I kept a copy of on my PC). No idea if any of them are relevant to what happened. Some are errors you already attempted to fix according to the tracker history. I also seem to recall you deciding against trying to fix certain others given the mess the developers made with the entire CW quest system. I do have a few saves, but they may not give you more information than has already been provided.

Comment #1 Sep 15, 2025 5:34 am  Edited by BlackPete on Sep 15, 2025 5:51 am
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