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Issue #17360: Friendly Afflicted ?
Am I right in thinking that you can randomly meet an Afflicted who will have a short conversation with you ...
... And it should just be a one off event ? On new days and outside different cities, I keep getting this event re-occurring. USKP 2.0.6 |
Yes, that is a random wilderness encounter (WEJS14). Evidently, it is set up so that it can possibly repeat before you start "The Only Cure" (DA13). I think that the encounters are supposed to go through a "cycle" before repeating themselves, so it shouldn't be repeating anywhere close to that often.
I can also confirm the problem, but have yet to figure out why it is happening. This seems to have started happening in my game starting at level 10, which is the required level to start the related Daedric quest (DA13). Before going to see Kesh, I was getting the encounter at least every other time (if not every time) I entered one of the wilderness encounter trigger areas.
This is only a theory, but I'm wondering if removing the "run once" flag (which was done for a good reason - by the way) with bug <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/tracdown/issue/16959-wejs14-should-not-have-the-run-once-flag-checked/'>#16959</a> actually uncovered a new bug that was being missed before because of the flag being checked. I suspect that may be the case, because I've been unable to confirm the "repeating issue" with the encounter on any games that were created prior to USKP 2.0.6.
I can also confirm the problem, but have yet to figure out why it is happening. This seems to have started happening in my game starting at level 10, which is the required level to start the related Daedric quest (DA13). Before going to see Kesh, I was getting the encounter at least every other time (if not every time) I entered one of the wilderness encounter trigger areas.
This is only a theory, but I'm wondering if removing the "run once" flag (which was done for a good reason - by the way) with bug <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/tracdown/issue/16959-wejs14-should-not-have-the-run-once-flag-checked/'>#16959</a> actually uncovered a new bug that was being missed before because of the flag being checked. I suspect that may be the case, because I've been unable to confirm the "repeating issue" with the encounter on any games that were created prior to USKP 2.0.6.
I'll confirm this too. Had several such encounters of late. I've been directed to Kesh (by the first of these encounters) but have not yet spoken to him.
Odd part is that in previous games they have always been hostile AFAICR, showing as Red with Detect Life, now they are non-hostile and show up Blue. Could this be an "accidental edit"? The CK eating a property or something similar?
I note that there was a change to this in 2.0.6:-
The random encounter with an Afflicted (WEJS14) should not have the "run once" flag selected. (Bug #16959).
Odd part is that in previous games they have always been hostile AFAICR, showing as Red with Detect Life, now they are non-hostile and show up Blue. Could this be an "accidental edit"? The CK eating a property or something similar?
I note that there was a change to this in 2.0.6:-
The random encounter with an Afflicted (WEJS14) should not have the "run once" flag selected. (Bug #16959).
<u>Just as a note</u>: To avoid confusion, there are two separate "encounter quests" that are related to the "Afflicted."
-- The encounter with the lone (friendly) afflicted is WEJS14. It only occurs prior to starting DA13.
-- The encounter with the two (hostile) afflicted is WEJS15. It only occurs after completing DA13.
-- The encounter with the lone (friendly) afflicted is WEJS14. It only occurs prior to starting DA13.
-- The encounter with the two (hostile) afflicted is WEJS15. It only occurs after completing DA13.
I have been directed to go and see Kesh, but have not been there yet.
And only encounter the lone friendly afflicted repeatedly.
And only encounter the lone friendly afflicted repeatedly.
Once completing the quest i haven't noticed any since, so that's a plus. The fact they are a refugee doesn't mean they should be hostile, i think the Npc says at much. I do feel like though i saw this Npc before level 10, could be wrong, but i had seen him many times before then. And yes this is my fourth play through and this is the first time i've ever encountered him, I thought it might have been a 'Cutting Room Floor' addition, didn't really pay attention.
I keep forgetting to take a screenshot of these guys, I still have not been to see Kesh, and have had four or five occurences in the same game, heres the latest last night ..
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/fqH6kIw.jpg" alt="fqH6kIw.jpg">
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/fqH6kIw.jpg" alt="fqH6kIw.jpg">
And another one today, near half moon mill
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/Jmb85qi.jpg" alt="Jmb85qi.jpg">
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/Jmb85qi.jpg" alt="Jmb85qi.jpg">
Save file for testing here: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/files/file/1352-save-for-bug-17360/'>http://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/files/file/1352-save-for-bug-17360/</a>
I've experimented quite a bit with this problem and they just keep re-occuring almost constantly until you go talk to Kesh at the Peryite Shrine; that seems to be the only way to get them to stop.
WERoadQuestNode has the "do all before repeating" box checked, so it doesn't make a bit of sense why this particular encounter is repeating so frequently.
<span style="color:#ffa07a;"><u>Also of note</u>: You won't experience this issue on a save file that was started with a USKP version older than 2.0.6.
I've experimented quite a bit with this problem and they just keep re-occuring almost constantly until you go talk to Kesh at the Peryite Shrine; that seems to be the only way to get them to stop.
WERoadQuestNode has the "do all before repeating" box checked, so it doesn't make a bit of sense why this particular encounter is repeating so frequently.
<span style="color:#ffa07a;"><u>Also of note</u>: You won't experience this issue on a save file that was started with a USKP version older than 2.0.6.
And just to back that up, one last screenshot : I still have not been to see Kesh just to see if these kept on coming .. they did
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/PjJ2Jkm.jpg" alt="PjJ2Jkm.jpg">
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/PjJ2Jkm.jpg" alt="PjJ2Jkm.jpg">
Fixed for USKP 2.0.8.
Beth, DA13Intro is not DA13. Checking the wrong quest is bad!
Beth, DA13Intro is not DA13. Checking the wrong quest is bad!
I'm getting the Afflicted Refugee spam too, I've seen at least twenty of those guys in the last week.
WDeranged, do you have Timing Is Everything? There seems to be a conditional that USLEEP fixes and then TIE appears to unfix.
Looks like you might have figured it out, I am indeed using Timing Is Everything. The weird thing is I've used it for a few years and not noticed this issue.
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