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Issue Data
Status: New
Issue Type: Bug Report
Project: Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
Component: Skyrim SE: Vanilla
Category: Locations
Assigned To: Nobody
Platform: All
Severity: Very Low
Votes: 0
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Opened By BlackPete on Mar 6, 2024 7:47 pm

Issue #33825: Hold location assignment for giant camps

 
There was a thread from a long time ago discussing hold boundaries. One comment indicated that changing the hold location of Talking Stone Camp would break the Jarl's bounty quest.
While you are correct about the positioning of TalkingStoneCampLocation from what I can see, we can't change this one because it would break the giant bounty quest that's available from the jarl in Morthal. Talking Stone Camp is the only giant camp in the hold.
I'm not sure if the quest that would be broken (mentioned above) was BG03 or Favor153. BG03 is a bounty quest to slay giants in several holds given by either the Steward or Jarl. Favor153 is a unique favor quest given by Jarl Skald (assuming he's the current Jarl) to slay a giant at a random location in The Pale. As far as I'm aware there is no unique favor quest from the Jarl of Morthal to slay a giant, only the bounty quest (BG03) given by the Steward. Additionally, Hjaalmarch looks like it currently has two giant camps. According to the Creation Kit, both Stonehill Bluff and Talking Stone Camp have their location records set to HjaalmarchHoldLocation. Stonehill Bluff looks like it is actually in The Pale, and as mentioned (in the comment) Talking Stone Camp is barely in Whiterun Hold.

Assuming Stonehill Bluff is actually in The Pale and not Hjaalmarch, can it safely be changed? Or could doing that potentially break a quest? Also, is it still considered to be a bad idea to change Talking Stone Camp's location from Hjaalmarch to Whiterun Hold? Obviously, if both of these were changed it would leave Hjaalmarch without any bounty quests to slay a giant.

Of note, the patch did change the location of another giant camp, Secunda's Kiss, from Falkreath Hold to Whiterun Hold (#13422), which eliminated the possibility of receiving a bounty quest to slay a giant in Falkreath Hold. As far as I'm aware nothing has been broken as a result of that fix.