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Issue Data
Status: Closed
Issue Type: Bug Report
Project: Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
Component: Fallout 4: Vanilla
Category: Quests & Dialogue
Assigned To: Nobody
Platform: All
Severity: Very Low
Votes: 0
Watching: N/A
Opened By Glitchfinder on Feb 28, 2025 9:49 am
Last Edited By Arthmoor on Mar 2, 2025 4:09 pm
Closed By Arthmoor on Mar 2, 2025 4:09 pm
Resolution: Fixed
Comment: Fixed for UFO4P 2.1.8.

Issue #34935: RESceneCC_DN101 - Pickman Gallery quest hook random encounter is likely mis-conditioned

 
The quest RESceneCC_DN101 is explicitly a quest hook for the Pickman Gallery, and it spawns a pile of dead bodies with a copy of Pickman's Calling Card in order to create another way for the player to start the Pickman Gallery quest. However, the only condition on this random encounter is that the player must be in the Commonwealth. So long as you're in the Commonwealth, this encounter can spawn indefinitely.

It would likely be appropriate to condition this quest against one of two things:
  1. Pickman (unique NPC DN101Pickman) still being alive, allowing for him to continue killing if the player spared him.
  2. The completion of the Pickman's Gift (DN101) quest, ensuring the corpses only act as a hook instead of being allowed to continue post-quest.

Comments

3 comment(s) [Closed]
Glitchfinder said:
 
I have posted a mod to nexus which adds Pickman's unique actor as a non-optional alias to the quest. The alias will fail to fill if Pickman is dead, thus implementing option 1 from my suggestions above. If the patch decides to address this and chooses that approach, you are free to simply merge my mod in.

Comment #1 Feb 28, 2025 1:25 pm
Arthmoor said:
 
Took a slightly different approach and modified the Story Manager node instead so it won't attempt to start it at all if Pickman is dead.

Comment #2 Mar 2, 2025 2:57 pm
Arthmoor said:
 
In answer to the reopen request - His death is being detected via reference. This then causes his reference to switch to being persistent, which is the expected behavior and would do the same if the alias solution had been used instead. Story Manager edits are a better solution than quest record edits.

Comment #3 Mar 2, 2025 4:08 pm
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