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Issue Data
Status: New
Issue Type: Bug Report
Project: Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
Component: Skyrim SE: Vanilla
Category: Items
Assigned To: Nobody
Platform: All
Severity: Very Low
Votes: 0
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Opened By user222222 on Feb 25, 2026 1:55 am

Issue #36279: Inconsistent items ownership in Halls of the Dead

 
Items in the Hall of the Dead in Whiterun do not have any ownership assigned. However, items in the Hall of the Dead in Solitude are owned by Styrr, which creates an inconsistency.
Additionally, after helping Andurs in Whiterun, you are still unable to take low-value items (up to 25 gold) from him, even though his relationship rank should be set to 1 after completing his quest.

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BlackPete said:
 
In Whiterun there are two cells: Hall of the Dead and Whiterun Catacombs. Hall of the Dead is owned by a specific NPC: Andurs. Whiterun Catacombs has no ownership set.

In Solitude there are two cells: Hall of the Dead and Solitude Catacombs. Unlike in Whiterun, both cells are marked as owned by a faction: SolitudeStyrrsHouseFaction. Factions can include multiple NPCs, but in Solitude's case the faction only includes Styrr.

The way the ownership system in the game works is confusing, so I looked into it for my own knowledge a number of years ago. The reason you're not able to take low-value items in Whiterun's Hall of the Dead is because the cell's ownership is set to an NPC instead of a faction. Specific NPC ownership will always treat items as owned regardless of relationship rank, meaning you can't take them without it counting as stealing. Faction ownership will allow you take items below a certain value if you have a relationship rank of one or greater with at least one NPC in the given faction.

Comment #1 Feb 25, 2026 4:49 am  Edited by BlackPete on Feb 25, 2026 5:05 am
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